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Rion Amilcar Scott: ‘It Has to Be Fun, It Has to Be Funky’

Rion Amilcar Scott

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This week on Ursa Short Fiction, Deesha Philyaw and Dawnie Walton chat with writer Rion Amilcar Scott, sharing stories, craft advice, 90’s hip-hop references, and how experience as parents, as teachers, and as lovers of music can inform the writing process. 

They discuss their reactions to elements of their work playing out in real life, and call for not forgetting the joys and humor of the Black experience that coincide with the tragedies. Rion talks about his generative and drafting process—his beginnings and endings, the structure and limitations of flash and short fiction, the revision process, and his playfulness and improvisation as an approach to the work.

Rion Amilcar Scott: “We have to write what we’re obsessed about. Big things and small things. That’s not the only thing that we’re obsessed about as a people, as Black Americans and around the world. It is one of the things. We have to talk about our pains and, of course we have to talk about our joys too, and I think a lot of people ignore the joys. Take, for instance, I think one big example is Heavy by Kiese [Laymon], I think a lot of people, if you read reviews or interviews, they focus on the tragedies and the sadnesses, and that’s a part of that book, but there’s so much joy and laughter. The book is hilarious…”

Deesha Philyaw: “That Black abundance.”

Rion Amilcar Scott: “That’s right. Black abundance! He puts it up front, and then a lot of people still ignore it, you know? And so, I think a lot of people, white, Black, everybody, oftentimes ignore the fact that we are writing about the complexity of life.”

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Produced by Ursa Story Company 

Hosted by Deesha Philyaw & Dawnie Walton

Executive Producers: Dawnie Walton, Deesha Philyaw, and Mark Armstrong

Associate Producers: Marina Leigh

Episode Editor: Kelly Araja

Photo credit: Rebecca Aranda Photography

About the Author 

Rion Amilcar Scott is the author of the story collections The World Doesn’t Require You and Insurrections, which was awarded the 2017 PEN/Bingham Prize for Debut Fiction and the 2017 Hillsdale Award from the Fellowship of Southern Writers. He teaches creative writing at the University of Maryland, College Park. His work has appeared in The New Yorker, The Kenyon Review, and Best American Science Fiction and Fantasy 2020, among other publications.

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